After a “traumatic nightmare” on Amtrak, can I get my money back?
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After a “traumatic nightmare” on Amtrak, can I get my money back?

Kimberli Eicher and her daughter just experienced the worst Amtrak train ride imaginable. It was so bad that they canceled their return trip and flew home. Do they deserve a refund?

Question

I took my seven-year-old daughter on our first Amtrak trip, from Chemult, Ore., to Oklahoma City to visit her cousins this summer.

The trip was a nightmare. Amtrak delayed our first train by seven hours. It failed to provide all the meals on our 26-hour trip. I had paid for a sleeper, but Amtrak seated us in the wrong section of the train. An employee yelled at me for “taking his seat” on a coach train where there were no assigned seats.

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I canceled our return trip and paid almost $1,000 for airfare to get home. The airfare wiped out my savings.

When I canceled our Amtrak return trip and explained why, a representative assured me that I’d receive a “full refund for my purchase.” That promise was six weeks ago, and now they’re saying I’m not eligible for a refund.

In my view, I purchased services that were never delivered (i.e., meals and bedroom accommodations for three days), and as a result of Amtrak not providing the services promised with my purchase, they forced me to have to spend money I don’t really have in order to transport my daughter and myself back home. — Kimberli Eicher, Bend, Ore.

Answer

I’m sorry you had such a difficult trip to Oklahoma. Amtrak should have done better — no delays, putting you in the right section of the train and treating you with dignity.

None of these issues rises to the level of qualifying for a refund. Amtrak doesn’t provide refunds for late trains. It does refund part of your ticket for an involuntary downgrade. But it does not offer your money back because of rude employees.

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But taken together, these complaints add up. You also furnished me with a detailed trip report that you sent to your bank when you disputed the charges for your train fare. You were not exaggerating when you called it a traumatic nightmare. I would have fought for a refund, too.

Technically, Amtrak was entitled to keep your money. After all, it had provided you with transportation from Oregon to Oklahoma. But a representative had already agreed to refund half your fare, so it’s reasonable to expect Amtrak to do what it promised. Instead, Amtrak reneged and insisted on keeping your money.

As I already mentioned, you filed a credit card dispute to recover your money after Amtrak told you it would not refund your ticket. You can file a chargeback for a service that you paid for but did not receive, so I think you had a case. You contacted me before the dispute was resolved, asking me to intervene.

I think you may have missed a step. When a company says “no” you can always appeal to an executive. I list the names, numbers and email addresses of the Amtrak executives on my consumer advocacy site, Elliott.org. I would have tried that before disputing your charges.

I reached out to Amtrak for you. A representative reviewed your file and agreed that your trip did not go as it should have. Amtrak refunded your ticket and offered you a credit for a make-good trip — just in case you want to try Amtrak again.

Christopher Elliott is the founder of Elliott Advocacy, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization that empowers consumers to solve their problems and helps those who can’t. He’s the author of numerous books on consumer advocacy and writes weekly columns for King Features Syndicate, USA Today, Forbes and the Washington Post. He also publishes the Elliott Report, a news site for consumers, and Elliott Confidential, a critically acclaimed newsletter about customer service. If you have a consumer problem you can’t solve, contact him directly through his advocacy website. You can also follow him on Twitter, Facebook, and LinkedIn, or sign up for his daily newsletter. This story originally appeared on Chriselliotts.com.

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4mo

This is a direct result of government corporatism. When money 💰 serves as the main focus of a company's operations, human feelings go out the window 🪟. Other countries have wonderful train 🚆 services but here in 🇺🇸, the government intentionally looks the other way when anything wrong is reported in a vehicle that's not a 🚗 or ✈. Now, unfortunate instances like yours happen a LOT in the skies and non-crime prisons (a.k.a. airports) too, but why do those get much more attention? Because of corporate branding. A viable solution for this in the long term would be to pray 🙏 for more companies like Brightline to expand and offer their services to compete with government funded Amtrak.

Pasquale Cuomo

Fine Art Photography

10mo

Yes yes yes. It's a government agency. Amtrak Joe Biden should be ashamed this happened, except he's shameless. If you need to get somewhere over some distance and time is critical, DON'T GO BY TRAIN. If it doesn't matter, then take your chances. WSJ just put out story about failures of new Acela's to reach speeds promised. The place is full of con artists.

G J Anderson

Retired Senior Assistant Director, Financial Aid at William & Mary-previous 2007-2024

1y

With travel challenges happening nowadays, ticket holders should be reimbursed. They Amtrak, airlines and other transportation options still make their money. So not really loosing 😕 

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