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re: Class of 2019 Recruiting MEGATHREAD: That's a Wrap Edition
Posted on 2/9/18 at 2:45 pm to TidalSurge1
Posted on 2/9/18 at 2:45 pm to TidalSurge1
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 2:45 pm to TidalSurge1
Previewing SEC's new 16-team structure / scheduling solution
14-team/8-game model: 6 in-div + 1 cross-div fixed rival (AL-TN, AU-GA...) + 1 of 6 cross-div rotating every other year—requires 12 years to rotate all 6. That flaw needs to be resolved, but are four 4-team pods a good way? Pods make 80% of all SEC matchups rotate and sacrifice many rivalries and their big financial benefits. Maybe that's why the 14-team/8-game model isn't already 3 fixed rivals, rotating the other 10 teams in 5 schedule slots (like pods).
SEC 16-team structure / scheduling solution with more rivalries + more frequent rotation:
SEC--East (8): FL GA KY SC TN VU + AL AU
SEC-West (8): AR LS 0M MS TA + M0 0K TX
^This not only facilitates more SEC rivalries, it ends the need for fixed cross-div rivals, which frees a 2nd schedule slot to use for rotations.
SEC schedules = 3 non-SEC + 9 SEC games;
7 in-division + 2 of 8 cross-div rotating yearly:
4 Rotations - #1, #8 | #2, #7 | #3, #6 | #4, #5
2 E teams --- AL, VU | GA, SC | KY, FL | TN, AU
2 W teams -- LS MO | 0K MS | 0M TX | AR TA
All 8 cross-div teams rotate in 4 years, playing 2 per year once and then the home/aways flip (as often as all 12 cross-pod teams rotate).
Consistent schedule format: 7-8 homes/year; aligns rotationals; limits post-bye opponents.
Sep: non-SEC & cross-division games
Oct: in-division games & bye (mid-season)
Nov: in-division & non-SEC rivalry games
Dec: SEC Championship game
Benefits include balanced divisions, equitable schedules, more frequent cross-div rotations, and a net gain in high-value annual rivalries — AL-LS, FL-LS rotate, but added annuals include AL-GA, FL-AU & SEC-W games vs TX, OK, MO.
Facts: With four 4-team pods (or 3 fixed rivals), the SEC would play only 48 yearly games and thereby less high-value annual rivalries. But with 8-team divisions, the SEC would play 112 yearly games and thereby more high-value annual rivalries. Either option would resolve the 14-team/8-game model's 12-year rotation flaw; but pods' financial impact is negative, while divisions' financial impact is positive.
Not only do the new 8-team divisions enable more financially beneficial scheduling (twice as many high-value yearly games as pods), they also offer more intrinsic value, such as division winners earning opportunities to compete in the SEC Championship game.
Note: The NCAA requires conferences with 12 or more teams to have 2 divisions.
14-team/8-game model: 6 in-div + 1 cross-div fixed rival (AL-TN, AU-GA...) + 1 of 6 cross-div rotating every other year—requires 12 years to rotate all 6. That flaw needs to be resolved, but are four 4-team pods a good way? Pods make 80% of all SEC matchups rotate and sacrifice many rivalries and their big financial benefits. Maybe that's why the 14-team/8-game model isn't already 3 fixed rivals, rotating the other 10 teams in 5 schedule slots (like pods).
SEC 16-team structure / scheduling solution with more rivalries + more frequent rotation:
SEC--East (8): FL GA KY SC TN VU + AL AU
SEC-West (8): AR LS 0M MS TA + M0 0K TX
^This not only facilitates more SEC rivalries, it ends the need for fixed cross-div rivals, which frees a 2nd schedule slot to use for rotations.
SEC schedules = 3 non-SEC + 9 SEC games;
7 in-division + 2 of 8 cross-div rotating yearly:
4 Rotations - #1, #8 | #2, #7 | #3, #6 | #4, #5
2 E teams --- AL, VU | GA, SC | KY, FL | TN, AU
2 W teams -- LS MO | 0K MS | 0M TX | AR TA
All 8 cross-div teams rotate in 4 years, playing 2 per year once and then the home/aways flip (as often as all 12 cross-pod teams rotate).
Consistent schedule format: 7-8 homes/year; aligns rotationals; limits post-bye opponents.
Sep: non-SEC & cross-division games
Oct: in-division games & bye (mid-season)
Nov: in-division & non-SEC rivalry games
Dec: SEC Championship game
Benefits include balanced divisions, equitable schedules, more frequent cross-div rotations, and a net gain in high-value annual rivalries — AL-LS, FL-LS rotate, but added annuals include AL-GA, FL-AU & SEC-W games vs TX, OK, MO.
Facts: With four 4-team pods (or 3 fixed rivals), the SEC would play only 48 yearly games and thereby less high-value annual rivalries. But with 8-team divisions, the SEC would play 112 yearly games and thereby more high-value annual rivalries. Either option would resolve the 14-team/8-game model's 12-year rotation flaw; but pods' financial impact is negative, while divisions' financial impact is positive.
Not only do the new 8-team divisions enable more financially beneficial scheduling (twice as many high-value yearly games as pods), they also offer more intrinsic value, such as division winners earning opportunities to compete in the SEC Championship game.
Note: The NCAA requires conferences with 12 or more teams to have 2 divisions.
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 2/9/18 at 2:45 pm to TidalSurge1
Four 4-team Pods -- 9 opponents/year
3 in-pod/year + 6/12 cross-pod/2-years
Pod-1:
FL: GA KY SC + AU TN, TA MS, OK MO
FL: GA KY SC + AL VU, LS OM, TX AR
GA: FL KY SC + AL VU, LS OM, TX AR
GA: FL KY SC + AU TN, TA MS, OK MO
KY: FL GA SC + AU TN, TA MS, OK MO
KY: FL GA SC + AL VU, LS OM, TX AR
SC: FL GA KY + AL VU, LS OM, TX AR
SC: FL GA KY + AU TN, TA MS, OK MO
Pod-2:
AL: AU TN VU + GA SC, LS OM, TX AR
AL: AU TN VU + FL KY, TA MS, OK MO
AU: AL TN VU + FL KY, TA MS, OK MO
AU: AL TN VU + GA SC, LS OM, TX AR
TN: AL AU VU + FL KY, TA MS, OK MO
TN: AL AU VU + GA SC, LS OM, TX AR
VU: AL AU TN + GA SC, LS OM, TX AR
VU: AL AU TN + FL KY, TA MS, OK MO
Pod-3:
LS: OM MS TA + GA SC, AL VU, TX AR
LS: OM MS TA + FL KY, AU TN, OK MO
OM: LS MS TA + GA SC, AL VU, TX AR
OM: LS MS TA + FL KY, AU TN, OK MO
MS: LS OM TA + GA SC, AU TN, OK MO
MS: LS OM TA + FL KY, AL VU, TX AR
TA: LS OM MS + GA SC, AU TN, OK MO
TA: LS OM MS + FL KY, AL VU, TX AR
Pod-4:
AR: MO OK TX + FL KY, AL VU, LS OM
AR: MO OK TX + GA SC, AU TN, TA MS
MO: AR OK TX + GA SC, AU TN, TA MS
MO: AR OK TX + FL KY, AL VU, LS OM
OK: AR MO TX + GA SC, AU TN, TA MS
OK: AR MO TX + FL KY, AL VU, LS OM
TX: AR MO OK + FL KY, AL VU, LS OM
TX: AR MO OK + GA SC, AU TN, TA MS
Many high-value matchups are not yearly
(about half as many as w/divisions). 80% of all SEC matchups play in 50% of the seasons.
3 in-pod/year + 6/12 cross-pod/2-years
Pod-1:
FL: GA KY SC + AU TN, TA MS, OK MO
FL: GA KY SC + AL VU, LS OM, TX AR
GA: FL KY SC + AL VU, LS OM, TX AR
GA: FL KY SC + AU TN, TA MS, OK MO
KY: FL GA SC + AU TN, TA MS, OK MO
KY: FL GA SC + AL VU, LS OM, TX AR
SC: FL GA KY + AL VU, LS OM, TX AR
SC: FL GA KY + AU TN, TA MS, OK MO
Pod-2:
AL: AU TN VU + GA SC, LS OM, TX AR
AL: AU TN VU + FL KY, TA MS, OK MO
AU: AL TN VU + FL KY, TA MS, OK MO
AU: AL TN VU + GA SC, LS OM, TX AR
TN: AL AU VU + FL KY, TA MS, OK MO
TN: AL AU VU + GA SC, LS OM, TX AR
VU: AL AU TN + GA SC, LS OM, TX AR
VU: AL AU TN + FL KY, TA MS, OK MO
Pod-3:
LS: OM MS TA + GA SC, AL VU, TX AR
LS: OM MS TA + FL KY, AU TN, OK MO
OM: LS MS TA + GA SC, AL VU, TX AR
OM: LS MS TA + FL KY, AU TN, OK MO
MS: LS OM TA + GA SC, AU TN, OK MO
MS: LS OM TA + FL KY, AL VU, TX AR
TA: LS OM MS + GA SC, AU TN, OK MO
TA: LS OM MS + FL KY, AL VU, TX AR
Pod-4:
AR: MO OK TX + FL KY, AL VU, LS OM
AR: MO OK TX + GA SC, AU TN, TA MS
MO: AR OK TX + GA SC, AU TN, TA MS
MO: AR OK TX + FL KY, AL VU, LS OM
OK: AR MO TX + GA SC, AU TN, TA MS
OK: AR MO TX + FL KY, AL VU, LS OM
TX: AR MO OK + FL KY, AL VU, LS OM
TX: AR MO OK + GA SC, AU TN, TA MS
Many high-value matchups are not yearly
(about half as many as w/divisions). 80% of all SEC matchups play in 50% of the seasons.
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 2/9/18 at 2:45 pm to TidalSurge1
8-team Divisions -- 9 opponents/year
7 in-division/year + 2/8 cross-div/year
SEC-East:
AL: AU, GA, FL, KY, TN, SC, VU
+2: LS MO, OK MS, OM TX, AR TA
AU: AL, GA, FL, KY, TN, SC, VU
+2: OK MS, OM TX, AR TA, LS MO
FL: AL, GA, AU, KY, TN, SC, VU
+2: OM TX, AR TA, LS MO, OK MS
GA: AL, AU, FL, KY, TN, SC, VU
+2: AR TA, LS MO, OK MS, OM TX
KY: AL, AU, GA, FL, TN, SC, VU
+2: OM TX, AR TA, LS MO, OK MS
SC: AL, AU, FL, GA, KY, TN, VU
+2: AR TA, LS MO, OK MS, OM TX
TN: AL, AU, GA, FL, KY, SC, VU
+2: OK MS, OM TX, AR TA, LS MO
VU: AL, AU, FL, GA, KY, TN, SC
+2: LS MO, OK MS, OM TX, AR TA
SEC-West:
AR: LS TA OM MS MO OK TX
+2: GA SC, KY FL, TN AU, AL VU
LS: TA OM MS AR MO OK TX
+2: AL VU, GA SC, KY FL, TN AU
OM: LS MS TA AR MO OK TX
+2: KY FL, TN AU, AL VU, GA SC
MS: LS OM TA AR MO OK TX
+2: TN AU, AL VU, GA SC, KY FL
MO: AR OK TX LS OM MS TA
+2: AL VU, GA SC, KY FL, TN AU
OK: AR MO TX LS OM MS TA
+2: TN AU, AL VU, GA SC, KY FL
TA: LS OM MS AR MO OK TX
+2: GA SC, KY FL, TN AU, AL VU
TX: AR MO OK LS OM MS TA
+2: KY FL, TN AU, AL VU, GA SC
More high-value matchups play yearly
(about twice as many as with pods).
7 in-division/year + 2/8 cross-div/year
SEC-East:
AL: AU, GA, FL, KY, TN, SC, VU
+2: LS MO, OK MS, OM TX, AR TA
AU: AL, GA, FL, KY, TN, SC, VU
+2: OK MS, OM TX, AR TA, LS MO
FL: AL, GA, AU, KY, TN, SC, VU
+2: OM TX, AR TA, LS MO, OK MS
GA: AL, AU, FL, KY, TN, SC, VU
+2: AR TA, LS MO, OK MS, OM TX
KY: AL, AU, GA, FL, TN, SC, VU
+2: OM TX, AR TA, LS MO, OK MS
SC: AL, AU, FL, GA, KY, TN, VU
+2: AR TA, LS MO, OK MS, OM TX
TN: AL, AU, GA, FL, KY, SC, VU
+2: OK MS, OM TX, AR TA, LS MO
VU: AL, AU, FL, GA, KY, TN, SC
+2: LS MO, OK MS, OM TX, AR TA
SEC-West:
AR: LS TA OM MS MO OK TX
+2: GA SC, KY FL, TN AU, AL VU
LS: TA OM MS AR MO OK TX
+2: AL VU, GA SC, KY FL, TN AU
OM: LS MS TA AR MO OK TX
+2: KY FL, TN AU, AL VU, GA SC
MS: LS OM TA AR MO OK TX
+2: TN AU, AL VU, GA SC, KY FL
MO: AR OK TX LS OM MS TA
+2: AL VU, GA SC, KY FL, TN AU
OK: AR MO TX LS OM MS TA
+2: TN AU, AL VU, GA SC, KY FL
TA: LS OM MS AR MO OK TX
+2: GA SC, KY FL, TN AU, AL VU
TX: AR MO OK LS OM MS TA
+2: KY FL, TN AU, AL VU, GA SC
More high-value matchups play yearly
(about twice as many as with pods).
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 9:26 pm
Posted on 2/9/18 at 2:46 pm to TidalSurge1
10: 5 annual rivalries + 5/10 rotational
AL: OM TA MS LS AU + GA TX VU AR KY
AL: OM TA MS LS AU + FL OK TN MO SC
AR: TA OK LS TX MO + AL FL OM TN SC
AR: TA OK LS TX MO + AU GA MS VU KY
AU: GA MS VU FL AL + TA OK TN AR SC
AU: GA MS VU FL AL + LS TX OM MO KY
FL: LS TN GA AU SC + AL TX OM MO KY
FL: LS TN GA AU SC + TA OK MS AR VU
GA: AU SC FL TN KY + AL TA OK MS VU
GA: AU SC FL TN KY + LS AR TX OM MO
KY: TN MO SC VU GA + AL LS TA OK MS
KY: TN MO SC VU GA + AU FL AR TX OM
LS: FL AR OM AL TA + GA TX VU KY MO
LS: FL AR OM AL TA + AU OK TN SC MS
OM: AL TX LS OK MS + GA AU AR VU KY
OM: AL TX LS OK MS + FL TA MO TN SC
MS: OK AU TA AL OM + FL LS MO TN SC
MS: OK AU TA AL OM + GA TX AR VU KY
MO: TX VU KY OK AR + AU GA LS MS TN
MO: TX VU KY OK AR + AL FL TA OM SC
OK: MS AR TX OM MO + AU GA TA TN KY
OK: MS AR TX OM MO + AL FL LS VU SC
SC: VU GA TN KY FL + AU LS TX OM AR
SC: VU GA TN KY FL + AL TA OK MS MO
TN: KY FL SC GA VU + AL TA OK MS MO
TN: KY FL SC GA VU + AU LS TX OM AR
TA: AR AL MS TX LS + GA OK AU TN KY
TA: AR AL MS TX LS + FL OM MO VU SC
TX: MO OM OK AR TA + AL FL LS SC VU
TX: MO OM OK AR TA + AU GA MS KY TN
VU: SC MO AU KY TN + AL GA LS TX OM
VU: SC MO AU KY TN + TA FL AR OK MS
AL: OM TA MS LS AU + GA TX VU AR KY
AL: OM TA MS LS AU + FL OK TN MO SC
AR: TA OK LS TX MO + AL FL OM TN SC
AR: TA OK LS TX MO + AU GA MS VU KY
AU: GA MS VU FL AL + TA OK TN AR SC
AU: GA MS VU FL AL + LS TX OM MO KY
FL: LS TN GA AU SC + AL TX OM MO KY
FL: LS TN GA AU SC + TA OK MS AR VU
GA: AU SC FL TN KY + AL TA OK MS VU
GA: AU SC FL TN KY + LS AR TX OM MO
KY: TN MO SC VU GA + AL LS TA OK MS
KY: TN MO SC VU GA + AU FL AR TX OM
LS: FL AR OM AL TA + GA TX VU KY MO
LS: FL AR OM AL TA + AU OK TN SC MS
OM: AL TX LS OK MS + GA AU AR VU KY
OM: AL TX LS OK MS + FL TA MO TN SC
MS: OK AU TA AL OM + FL LS MO TN SC
MS: OK AU TA AL OM + GA TX AR VU KY
MO: TX VU KY OK AR + AU GA LS MS TN
MO: TX VU KY OK AR + AL FL TA OM SC
OK: MS AR TX OM MO + AU GA TA TN KY
OK: MS AR TX OM MO + AL FL LS VU SC
SC: VU GA TN KY FL + AU LS TX OM AR
SC: VU GA TN KY FL + AL TA OK MS MO
TN: KY FL SC GA VU + AL TA OK MS MO
TN: KY FL SC GA VU + AU LS TX OM AR
TA: AR AL MS TX LS + GA OK AU TN KY
TA: AR AL MS TX LS + FL OM MO VU SC
TX: MO OM OK AR TA + AL FL LS SC VU
TX: MO OM OK AR TA + AU GA MS KY TN
VU: SC MO AU KY TN + AL GA LS TX OM
VU: SC MO AU KY TN + TA FL AR OK MS
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 9:26 pm
Posted on 2/9/18 at 2:59 pm to TideSaint
I'm most excited about this year's in state class...we need to clean house.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 3:23 pm to TidalSurge1
quote:
DT Ishmael Sopsher
Amite, Louisiana
Yes please
Posted on 2/9/18 at 4:05 pm to Alabamya
quote:
DT Ishmael Sopsher
Amite, Louisiana
Yes please
I live 20 minutes away and have seen him play multiple times. This kid is a fricking monster.
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 2/9/18 at 4:37 pm to fhsdemonfan3131
One interesting note on Surtain. Bama felt confident for a lot longer than was made public. His grandmother from New Orleans came to visit in the Summer and loved it. Also, Kirby thought he was going to Bama for the last few weeks. He was hammering Campbell on not going to the same school as Surtain (which they probably weren't going to do anyway, as Campbell's dad didn't want him to remain in Surtain's shadow).
There's a very strong belief around Bama that if Surtain had gone to 7SU, we would have landed Campbell. We'll never know for sure one way or another, but interesting stuff nonetheless.
There's a very strong belief around Bama that if Surtain had gone to 7SU, we would have landed Campbell. We'll never know for sure one way or another, but interesting stuff nonetheless.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:13 pm to TidalSurge1
quote:
DT Ishmael Sopsher Amite, Louisiana ESPN Junior 300 rank: 8 Sopsher has Florida, LSU, Ole Miss, Auburn, Texas, Clemson, Michigan, Georgia, Mississippi State, Florida State, Tennessee and Penn State in his top group. A 6-foot-4, 330-pound defensive tackle, Sopsher has visited a few schools, including LSU and Alabama. In the end, he might be tough to pull from Louisiana.
This is the guy I want more than anyone in 2019.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:27 pm to fhsdemonfan3131
quote:
This kid isn't a fricking monster.
Is that what you meant? Overrated?
Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:33 pm to Bama3714
quote:
One interesting note on Surtain. Bama felt confident for a lot longer than was made public. His grandmother from New Orleans came to visit in the Summer and loved it. Also, Kirby thought he was going to Bama for the last few weeks. He was hammering Campbell on not going to the same school as Surtain (which they probably weren't going to do anyway, as Campbell's dad didn't want him to remain in Surtain's shadow).
There's a very strong belief around Bama that if Surtain had gone to 7SU, we would have landed Campbell. We'll never know for sure one way or another, but interesting stuff nonetheless.
I have a connection to sam pettito and some good sources. My sources kept telling me for weeks he was going to bama. I was cautiously optimistic
Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:34 pm to I Like FBall
quote:
Is that what you meant? Overrated?
Auto correct got me he IS a monster. Lol
Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:12 pm to fhsdemonfan3131
Jaquelin Roy in the 2020 class projects to be a top flight DL. He's at UHigh in Baton Rouge.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:41 pm to fhsdemonfan3131
quote:
Auto correct got me he IS a monster. Lol
Haha, that's what I thought based upon your tone, but I wanted to make sure!
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:22 pm to I Like FBall
FWIW
Hopefully this young man can turn this opportunity into a positive outcome.
Former Bama LB, Tyler Hayes signed with Tuskegee this week.
Montgomery Advertiser Article
He never played or practiced with West Georgia per the article.
ETA: not sure if this is the right place...but thought those with an interest in recruiting would be the most interested.
Hopefully this young man can turn this opportunity into a positive outcome.
Former Bama LB, Tyler Hayes signed with Tuskegee this week.
Montgomery Advertiser Article
quote:
Finishing third in the Mr. Football voting after leading Thomasville to the 2010 Class 4A state title, Hayes went to Butler Community College in Kansas before signing with Division II West Georgia in 2014.
He never played or practiced with West Georgia per the article.
ETA: not sure if this is the right place...but thought those with an interest in recruiting would be the most interested.
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:32 pm to Bama323_15
Anybody with evaluation talents on here watch Jalen Moody? I saw him rated a low 3 star so I'm wondering will he play or was somewhat a steal
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:45 pm to seanpendleton10
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This post was edited on 3/9/20 at 8:42 pm
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:50 pm to TidalSurge1
Thanks bud
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:17 pm to Bama323_15
Hayes would have been a stud, played as a true freshman.
He is the guy that jumped off sides on the 4th and 1 to give A&M a first down and the win in the 12 game.
He is the guy that jumped off sides on the 4th and 1 to give A&M a first down and the win in the 12 game.
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