Guardians of The Lambsfoot!

Very nice Chin! I have not forgot your generous guidance on my lambfoot quest. Am in the midst of feeding a much older passion of mine as I seek too complete purchase of a pristine red Honda S2000 roadster I was able to track down. (No small thing when you live in a town in the middle of nowhere.o_O) Hope to return to the quest soon however.

Tom
Define middle of nowhere Tom ? Good luck on obtaining the S2000 . Had a goal like that once . But that was a long time ago .

Harry
 

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Treated myself to a new sharpener, and after testing it out on some garbage kitchen knives I decided to refine the edge on my Michael May lambsfoot. And boy what a slicer I ended up with!

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That's looking good :) :thumbsup:

Thanks Jack, think you have been the only person in the years I have been a member which understands who Ogri is !

I think our Commando-riding French correspondent @Jolipapa is also a fan :) :thumbsup:

What make is this one ?

That's by Arthur Wright & Son :thumbsup:

As is the one I'm carrying today ;)

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Just checked, and Eggington do a Lambsfoot with Pen, with the Joseph Rodgers tang-stamp. TEW also do one similar to the one pictured above, but like the Eggington knives, in stainless :thumbsup:
 
Some beautiful examples shown, and that honey and white colored model of Jacks is just stunning.
Darn few old American knives exist with either sheepsfoot or lambsfoot blades. Here is an 1800s Russell all metal "The Boy Of" ("America" on the back handle side) with a blade that could fall into either category.
It favors a sheepsfoot style, but does have a slight taper like a lambsfoot.

 
image.jpeg image.jpeg Guys I need your opinions, being a newbie to Lambsfoot knives, I have the choice of buying either of the knives below. My gut feeling is to go for the unpolished version with the satin blade since I looks more traditional to me and has a slightly nicer rounded blade tip shape, what are your thoughts ?
 
Thanks for the kind words Tom, Jack and GT.

A little while ago in this thread, Greg (WhittlinAway) showed an interesting sloyd knife, with a familiar looking blade profile.

That got me to wondering whether the lambsfoot blade as we know it ever showed up in fixed-blade form in England for use in the trades practiced in the shop rather than the field. Is there any tradition of fixed-blade lambsfoot knives?

Jack thought not, discounting those distant cousins of the Lambsfoot in blade shape and handle orientation, the leatherworkers' 'boot knife'.

Nonetheless, I'd idly wondered before, once, as to what a small utility fixed blade might be like, which recreated the lines and form, and useful size in hand of the Lambsfoot pattern.

I have just been wondering, in light of the sleek, Ox-horn Lambsfoots effectiveness as a fruit knife and vegetable parer, what a small fixed blade knife of the same handle and blade shape would be like.

Then, earlier this month, at the Australian Knifemakers Guild annual expo in Melbourne, I was chatting to custom maker Christian Mathieson. In the course of the conversation, I mentioned I had some Sambar deer antlers in the shed, and ended up swapping a couple of sets for a two day lesson in knifemaking in Christian's fully equipped custom shop.

These were my initial sketches for a lightweight 3" bladed, hiking and outdoor knife concept, which would also work well as a craftsperson's high performance utility blade, or kitchen parer.

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From top to bottom, these started off as tracings of my Golden Ox-horn Lambsfoot; my current favourite workhorse EDC: the Wright ebony Lambsfoot; and lastly, the classic, century old Unity Lambsfoot.

I then started playing with angles and the flow of the lines a bit, with a view to distilling some of the qualities I have most enjoyed in the various Lambsfoots I've been fortunate enough to have used or handled.

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You'll notice on the underside of the handle, I accentuated the parallel curve echoing the top side swayback, and added a small forefinger choil area where the kick and bolster would be on a pocket knife. This is so the tip drops slightly below horizontal in a natural sabre grip and will engage and bite into draw cuts very easily.

Roughed out D2 blades:

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I promptly ground the tip of one of these too thin on the Radius Master and chewed it up. I was shattered, but Christian was philosophical, saying 'that's how you learn.' He salvaged what he could, and so now I have a fully cryo heat treated and sharpened 'Mule' I can use as a test blade!

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We continued on the other blade.
Christian is set up for for liquid nitrogen quenching (continuing on from an aluminium plate quench to room temp) and deep cryogenic aging during the temper cycles, so the blades went into the first cold cycle at the end of the first day.

(Cryogenic treatment of some hypereutectoid steels like D2, has been shown to achieve a very beneficial microstructure and carbide refinement, as well as promoting complete martensitic transformation of retained austenite.)

(Continued)
 
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I returned four days later and we handled and finished the knife.

This is it, my first knife: a fixed blade 'Lambsfoot'.:)

Thanks Christian!:thumbsup:

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This knife looks back to the classic Lambsfoots and the knives of Smith's Key in its design inspirations:

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Black canvas micarta handle with red liners. 420 stainless pins. Tapered, full tang:

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The classic swayback palmswell for indexing the blade angle and handling comfort. The knife weighs 2.2 ounces, or 62 grams:

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Radiused scallops to facilitate pinch gripping the blade:

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Flat ground blade to nearly a zero edge, like the classic era, forged blade Lambsfoots. It's 0.010", or 0.25mm thick behind the edge, with a tiny 15 degree apex bevel applied with the brown Sharpmaker, medium ceramic rods. Full swedge to reduce spine width:

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Deep cryo'd D2 tool steel, fixed blade 'Lambsfoot':

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Some beautiful examples shown, and that honey and white colored model of Jacks is just stunning.
Darn few old American knives exist with either sheepsfoot or lambsfoot blades. Here is an 1800s Russell all metal "The Boy Of" ("America" on the back handle side) with a blade that could fall into either category.
It favors a sheepsfoot style, but does have a slight taper like a lambsfoot.


Great Barlow, Herder, my friend. :thumbsup::cool:

It evokes a bit of that old, pre-Lambsfoot 'Short Beak' blade profile.

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Thanks for sharing another great knife from your collection. :thumbsup:

View attachment 712022 View attachment 712023 Guys I need your opinions, being a newbie to Lambsfoot knives, I have the choice of buying either of the knives below. My gut feeling is to go for the unpolished version with the satin blade since I looks more traditional to me and has a slightly nicer rounded blade tip shape, what are your thoughts ?

Ogri, I agree mate: I'd go with the satin finished, swayback handled knife every time. :thumbsup:
 
Some beautiful examples shown, and that honey and white colored model of Jacks is just stunning.
Darn few old American knives exist with either sheepsfoot or lambsfoot blades. Here is an 1800s Russell all metal "The Boy Of" ("America" on the back handle side) with a blade that could fall into either category.
It favors a sheepsfoot style, but does have a slight taper like a lambsfoot.


Thanks my friend :) Beautiful knife :thumbsup: It looks to me like a Sheepsfoot with honest wear, like this IXL below for example.

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View attachment 712022 View attachment 712023 Guys I need your opinions, being a newbie to Lambsfoot knives, I have the choice of buying either of the knives below. My gut feeling is to go for the unpolished version with the satin blade since I looks more traditional to me and has a slightly nicer rounded blade tip shape, what are your thoughts ?

I'd go with your gut, and Chin, Ogri :) :thumbsup:

Thanks for the kind words Tom, Jack and GT.

A little while ago in this thread, Greg (WhittlinAway) showed an interesting sloyd knife, with a familiar looking blade profile.



Jack thought not, discounting those distant cousins of the Lambsfoot in blade shape and handle orientation, the leatherworkers' 'boot knife'.

Nonetheless, I'd idly wondered before, once, as to what a small utility fixed blade might be like, which recreated the lines and form, and useful size in hand of the Lambsfoot pattern.



Then, earlier this month, at the Australian Knifemakers Guild annual expo in Melbourne, I was chatting to custom maker Christian Mathieson. In the course of the conversation, I mentioned I had some Sambar deer antlers in the shed, and ended up swapping a couple of sets for a two day lesson in knifemaking in Christian's fully equipped custom shop.

These were my initial sketches for a lightweight 3" hiking and outdoor knife concept, which would also work well as a craftsperson's high performance utility blade, or kitchen parer.

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From top to bottom, these started off as tracings of my Golden Ox-horn Lambsfoot; my current favourite workhorse EDC: the Wright ebony Lambsfoot; and lastly, the classic, century old Unity Lambsfoot.

I then started playing with angles and the flow of the lines a bit, with a view to distilling some of the qualities I have most enjoyed in the various Lambsfoots I've been fortunate enough to have used or handled.

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You'll notice on the underside of the handle, I accentuated the parallel curve echoing the top side swayback, and added a small forefinger choil area where the kick and bolster would be on a pocket knife. This is so the tip drops slightly below horizontal in a natural sabre grip and will engage and bite into draw cuts very easily.

Roughed out D2 blades:

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I promptly ground the tip of one of these too thin on the Radius Master and chewed it up. I was shattered, but Christian was philosophical, saying 'that's how you learn.' He salvaged what he could, and so now I have a fully cryo heat treated and sharpened 'Mule' I can use as a test blade!

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We continued on the other blade.
Christian is set up for for liquid nitrogen quenching and deep cryogenic aging during the temper cycles, so the blades went into the first cold cycle at the end of the first day.

(Cryogenic treatment of hypereutectoid steels has been shown to achieve a very beneficial microstucture and carbide refinement, as well as promoting complete martensitic transformation of retained austenite.)

(Continued)

Not for the first time Chin, I was absolutely fascinated by your post :thumbsup: :thumbsup: That's a nice friendship to have struck up, and what a result! :eek: :cool: :) :thumbsup:

I returned four days later and we handled and finished the knife.

This is it, my first knife: a fixed blade 'Lambsfoot'.:)

Thanks Christian!:thumbsup:

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This knife looks back to the classic Lambsfoots and the knives of Smith's Key in its design inspirations:

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Black canvas micarta handle with red liners. 420 stainless pins. Tapered, full tang:

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The classic swayback palmswell for indexing the blade angle and handling comfort:

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Radiused scallops to facilitate pinch gripping the blade:

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Flat ground blade to nearly a zero edge, like the classic era, forged blade Lambsfoots. It's ten thou of an inch, or 0.25mm thick behind the edge. Full swedge to reduce spine width:

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Deep cryo'd D2 tool steel:

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Wow! What a first knife! :cool: A very interesting project, I'm knocked out by what you've produced, with Christian's help. Well done my friend, that's something to be proud of, and I'm really looking forward to hearing how you get on with it :cool: :) :thumbsup:
 
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Great to see that one Ron, I was just admiring it in the EDC thread, but had forgotten how you got it! I have a memory like a middle-aged sieve these days! :D :thumbsup:
 
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