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lime flavoured User ID: 956000 United Kingdom 04/29/2010 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Interior Department said it has assembled a "SWAT team" of inspectors to review safety at offshore drilling rigs across the U.S. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency said separately that it has launched a network of monitor systems to evaluate air quality amid concerns that plans to burn off the oil slick in a controlled process could pollute the air. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 953877Link: [link to english.capital.gr] A SWAT team of inspectors not the armed normal type sillies!!! Why not just call them inspectors? They word SAWT brings forth certain thoughts (as it has here and twitter) words are always chosen wisely for a specific affect. I do agree but I guess it's always best to double check things - took me 2 mins on google! Nice to see logic and level heads prevail as the case here shows. No link and speculation lead to retardation. Regardless of what that link said, Obama didn't clarify it (they just played the pertinent part of the speech on BBC radio news), so you get threads like this. I still think they may say this is deliberate regardless of exactly who they send. And that is speculation on your part not backed up by any facts. I never said otherwise. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 643200 United States 04/29/2010 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, but OP heard it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 905924Who else would search such rigs? Not the freakin boy-scouts. They will need helicopter teams. SWAT makes sense. In any event, there must be some intel or something up to warrant this. Oh well! If OP heard it then it must be true right? Safety inspectors would check the rigs! What use would swat teams be? Exactly. What does SWAT know about oil rig safety???? Like nothing. +1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 801231 United States 04/29/2010 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wish I could say I am shocked. Honestly, I have been more surprised that there haven't been tons of threads offering up different angles of a conspiracy theorys concerning this "accident". From the first words of this incident I have been wondering several things, are they just coincidences?.... 1. first oil drilling incident of it's kind in how long? 2. drill was nearly new, state-of-the-art engineering 3. Obama had just opened previously closed areas to offshore drilling. Though the debate wages on, and at one time he was believed to be against the idea. 4. said state-of-the-art rig was furnished with a hightech auto shut off valve 5,000ft below the water surface that was to cut off ALL oil flow in the event of a loss of pressure, malfunction, fire, or LEAK. It is odd that the safety systems did not kick in to at least lessen the impact. The BOP, the SCSSVs, etc. Normally the SCSSV should fail closed. 5. timing, timing, timing. and now.... Govern. Crist of Florida, who had been whole heartedly against the idea of offshore drilling for Florida, swang the other way when the gas prices reached 4$ a gallon there... and then further spoke that Obama's action to open closed waters "may be a reasonable and nessecary" move.... AND NOW??? now that the drill-rig blew the hell up and continues to spill (seemingly endlessly) he says, "perhaps offshore drilling is not the right thing for Florida. The recent accident really makes you think." ......... just to mention, I am not saying it was liberals or ecos, or whoever. who knows. could be an inside job? why? who knows. But you say no oil worker would ever do such a thing!! not too far out there to think that someone may have sacrificed their own life (and the lives of others) for some kind of extreme ideal. If it was someone "planted" for a "mission" could they have laid in waiting for years and the perfect timing? All I am saying, is that from the start of this news, the whole thing seemed a little like too many coincidences. I also found it odd that on any media outlet that reported I either missed, or it was never mentioned, the possibility that this was NOT just an accident. That also seemed odd to me in a time when every little thing that happens in this country is followed with, "could it have been terrorism?" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 442346 United States 04/29/2010 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | False Flag Terror Attack Quoting: Anonymous Coward 757880Maybe 'eco-terrorism'. Look for the call to ban drilling. I betcha it was all planned. I was thinking the same thing the moment the story broke. About to let companies start drilling then a "mysterious exploding rig"....please they did this to stop the drilling and/or drive up oil prices. When I posted False Flag I meant one thing. The government blows up the rig. The economy of the Gulf region is destroyed. The unemployed starving people are then "saved" by FEMA and the NIMS. Troops will be deployed. Martial Law will be enforced when it gets bad. And without tourists and fishing, it will get bad. |
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Nailer45 User ID: 949126 United States 04/29/2010 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SWAT teams need to set up along the US border and fire at the invading forces and actually earn their money for once.. Last Edited by Nailer45 on 04/29/2010 03:30 PM Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 911295 United States 04/29/2010 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Senator Nelson D Fla. has just called for the "temporary" halt to off shore exploration. Has sent request to Obama. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 875706Just heard here on FOX news. Bend over, here it comes. bend over so you can dig your hand in your pocket and pull out your money- gas prices through the roof this summer, believe that |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 917779 Canada 04/29/2010 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I was pres, I'd have Navy Seals checking those rigs underwater for charges. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 956406and not only that, but inhouse sabotage or incompetence or deliberate incompetence as a form of sabotage. SWAT = Special Weapons and Tactics. So indeed, a SWAT team of inspectors could include members with training common to actual SWAT teams from units like the Navy Seals. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 226864 United States 04/29/2010 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | mexican taliban sunk our platform with box cutters Quoting: Anonymous Coward 956403Could have been any taliban.. ships from all over the world use those ports.. Somebody blew up the rig and before they did that, they made sure the 'fail-safe' systems would fail-terrorism. Somebody thought this up and it had to be put in play by more than one person don't you think-conspiracy? It is likely that the rigmen involved in this are all dead-loose ends tied up. TSHTF, and feeble minds take more than a week before the alarm bells go off-incompetence. If another rig blows up...? |
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SHR Forum Administrator 04/29/2010 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something sounds fishy here.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 226864and the whole accident is fishy.... pun intended I assume!? Lol...yes, but not in the sense that there is NOT something amiss. For this to happen the BOP had to fail...(Blow Out Protector)...this is probably the one piece of equipment that would be called the Alpha dog on a drill rig. It is THE ONE KEY component that would always be monitored to excess, would have tons of redundant systems doing that monitoring, would have it's own redundant systems in and on it, would have a battery of spare parts and support teams to immediately do any repairs if anything did happen to it...and would more or less be treated one of if not THE most critical system on the whole rig 24/7. This is no small system, it's probably 2 stories tall easy. It's also no wimpy piece of a rig...it's very robust and actually fairly simple as to how it operates. Giant hydraulic rams slam big slabs of steel home across the pipe going up and shut it off.Even if there is a drill shaft going across it the rams just snip it off and they are made with a cavity that the snipped off piece rattles off into...THAT happens a whole lot more frequently then any of these things ever fail. There are also at least 2 rams...redundancy... It's obvious that something caused it's complete failure because the rig exploded AND the well head is spewing full out as we speak. The question seems to be why the BOP was not activated. In other words, it didn't fail-it's never been activated. So, if that is right, there are two questions. Why didn't the crew onboard the rig activate it? And why didn't the automatic shutoff known as the "Dead Man" switch fail to automatically close the BOP. The BOP itself did not fail. They are trying to close the BOP manually using an arm on a robotic sub. Where are you getting that information from? I realize that there is a manual close on them, but I assumed since it hadn't been closed yet that it must have been damaged or was not operational for some reason. Are you saying the BOP was never brought on line?...that would be like the most seriously unheard of breach of operating procedure with absolutely no good reason for I could possibly think of. I would sooner guess that somehow all systems were invaded by alien nanobots and eaten... I cannot imagine that any person on board that rig wouldn't mutiny or at least scream bloody murder to anyone they could about that...it would be like having a job stacking sacks of raw gunpowder and your boss just told you that you were required to carry a lit torch while doing it.... If you have a credible source to that being stated somewhere I'd sure like to see it. ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
UtahApoc (OP) User ID: 882294 United States 04/29/2010 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unpin! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 956006Why? READ what was said earlier - this was all a misunderstanding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No misunderstanding. regardless of it being inspectors, or police/military the PRESIDENT used the word SWAT. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 953877 United States 04/29/2010 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Interior Department said it has assembled a "SWAT team" of inspectors to review safety at offshore drilling rigs across the U.S. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency said separately that it has launched a network of monitor systems to evaluate air quality amid concerns that plans to burn off the oil slick in a controlled process could pollute the air. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 953877Link: [link to english.capital.gr] A SWAT team of inspectors not the armed normal type sillies!!! Why not just call them inspectors? They word SAWT brings forth certain thoughts (as it has here and twitter) words are always chosen wisely for a specific affect. I do agree but I guess it's always best to double check things - took me 2 mins on google! Nice to see logic and level heads prevail as the case here shows. No link and speculation lead to retardation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 226864 United States 04/29/2010 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something sounds fishy here.... Quoting: SHRand the whole accident is fishy.... pun intended I assume!? Lol...yes, but not in the sense that there is NOT something amiss. For this to happen the BOP had to fail...(Blow Out Protector)...this is probably the one piece of equipment that would be called the Alpha dog on a drill rig. It is THE ONE KEY component that would always be monitored to excess, would have tons of redundant systems doing that monitoring, would have it's own redundant systems in and on it, would have a battery of spare parts and support teams to immediately do any repairs if anything did happen to it...and would more or less be treated one of if not THE most critical system on the whole rig 24/7. This is no small system, it's probably 2 stories tall easy. It's also no wimpy piece of a rig...it's very robust and actually fairly simple as to how it operates. Giant hydraulic rams slam big slabs of steel home across the pipe going up and shut it off.Even if there is a drill shaft going across it the rams just snip it off and they are made with a cavity that the snipped off piece rattles off into...THAT happens a whole lot more frequently then any of these things ever fail. There are also at least 2 rams...redundancy... It's obvious that something caused it's complete failure because the rig exploded AND the well head is spewing full out as we speak. The question seems to be why the BOP was not activated. In other words, it didn't fail-it's never been activated. So, if that is right, there are two questions. Why didn't the crew onboard the rig activate it? And why didn't the automatic shutoff known as the "Dead Man" switch fail to automatically close the BOP. The BOP itself did not fail. They are trying to close the BOP manually using an arm on a robotic sub. Where are you getting that information from? I realize that there is a manual close on them, but I assumed since it hadn't been closed yet that it must have been damaged or was not operational for some reason. Are you saying the BOP was never brought on line?...that would be like the most seriously unheard of breach of operating procedure with absolutely no good reason for I could possibly think of. I would sooner guess that somehow all systems were invaded by alien nanobots and eaten... I cannot imagine that any person on board that rig wouldn't mutiny or at least scream bloody murder to anyone they could about that...it would be like having a job stacking sacks of raw gunpowder and your boss just told you that you were required to carry a lit torch while doing it.... If you have a credible source to that being stated somewhere I'd sure like to see it. [link to news.sciencemag.org] SHR, I don't know if this is a creditable source, but they are saying that engineers are desperately trying to close the BOP manually using an arm on a robotic submersible. |
CRYSTAL in MATRIX User ID: 501458 United States 04/29/2010 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.cbsnews.com] He said SWAT teams were being dispatched to the Gulf to investigate oil rigs and said his administration is now working to determine the cause of the disaster. "No guts, no glory!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 519048 Netherlands 04/29/2010 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This rig was not fully operational yet. Had 95 on board when it exploded. That is a lot of men on one float, that is for sure. So clearly they were setting things up still. Let's not forget that 11 died. These rigs go up all over the world. Naturally shit can happen, but WHY an explosion exactly? Lot's of unanswered questions. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 905924 United States 04/29/2010 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Interior Department said it has assembled a "SWAT team" of inspectors to review safety at offshore drilling rigs across the U.S. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency said separately that it has launched a network of monitor systems to evaluate air quality amid concerns that plans to burn off the oil slick in a controlled process could pollute the air. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 953877Link: [link to english.capital.gr] A SWAT team of inspectors not the armed normal type sillies!!! Why not just call them inspectors? They word SAWT brings forth certain thoughts (as it has here and twitter) words are always chosen wisely for a specific affect. I do agree but I guess it's always best to double check things - took me 2 mins on google! Nice to see logic and level heads prevail as the case here shows. No link and speculation lead to retardation. No - he said SWAT and Department of Defense. [link to www.cbsnews.com] |