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Showing Original Post only (View all)Steve Kornacki's theory on the Christie scandal [View all]
Bridgegate Motive: Mystery Solved
by sharman
This was the speculation on Steve Kornacki's show this morning. There is no question in my mind that he has put his finger squarely on it.
It is indeed, as the Mayor vaguely intuited, about Fort Lee's big crown jewel: The billion dollar redevelopment project at the foot of the bridge.
Some either wants a piece of that project, or wants to ratfuck it. Screw with the project's bridge access, and the project is dead.
Here are the dots that Kornacki connected:
1) The timing. Bridgegate went down just before major financing for the next phase of the project was to be secured. That financing did not get back on track til Bridgegate was called off.
2) Christie's initial dickish press conference: I'd noticed this too, but did not see the trail: Not only did Christie go out of his way to mock Fort Lee's pain, he gratuitously volunteered that the real scandal he sees--once Fort Lee and its bridge access came on his radar screen--was how the heck did that little pissant town get 3 bridge lanes. Said Christie, "That's what gets me sauced."
3) Kornacki played that clip, and this leaps out like a red flare: Christie goes on to say: "I've talked to Samson (head of the Port Authority and Christie's appointee) about (the travesty of Fort Lee having 3 lanes). I think that's something that should be looked at."
Neon lights, guys. That's absolutely what this is all about. The Samson connection is particularly telling--isn't he really juiced with major economic players? For him to control something as valuable and vital as access to the GWB, that's a gold mine.
So that is the motive. Stick a monkeywrench in the project, just in time to stall its financing. Make it clear that the Gov and his friends can take away your bridge access. Then someone gets something they want very much. Perhaps a piece of the project. Perhaps they want to kill the project, because it competes with another project.
And either way, I am sure Christie is in it up to his eyeballs.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/01/12/1269070/-Bridgegate-Motive-Mystery-Solved
by sharman
This was the speculation on Steve Kornacki's show this morning. There is no question in my mind that he has put his finger squarely on it.
It is indeed, as the Mayor vaguely intuited, about Fort Lee's big crown jewel: The billion dollar redevelopment project at the foot of the bridge.
Some either wants a piece of that project, or wants to ratfuck it. Screw with the project's bridge access, and the project is dead.
Here are the dots that Kornacki connected:
1) The timing. Bridgegate went down just before major financing for the next phase of the project was to be secured. That financing did not get back on track til Bridgegate was called off.
2) Christie's initial dickish press conference: I'd noticed this too, but did not see the trail: Not only did Christie go out of his way to mock Fort Lee's pain, he gratuitously volunteered that the real scandal he sees--once Fort Lee and its bridge access came on his radar screen--was how the heck did that little pissant town get 3 bridge lanes. Said Christie, "That's what gets me sauced."
3) Kornacki played that clip, and this leaps out like a red flare: Christie goes on to say: "I've talked to Samson (head of the Port Authority and Christie's appointee) about (the travesty of Fort Lee having 3 lanes). I think that's something that should be looked at."
Neon lights, guys. That's absolutely what this is all about. The Samson connection is particularly telling--isn't he really juiced with major economic players? For him to control something as valuable and vital as access to the GWB, that's a gold mine.
So that is the motive. Stick a monkeywrench in the project, just in time to stall its financing. Make it clear that the Gov and his friends can take away your bridge access. Then someone gets something they want very much. Perhaps a piece of the project. Perhaps they want to kill the project, because it competes with another project.
And either way, I am sure Christie is in it up to his eyeballs.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/01/12/1269070/-Bridgegate-Motive-Mystery-Solved
Christie's recent press conference was a con job, an attempt to dazzle people with bullshit.
Here is the response from the press conference mentioned in the piece above:
The fact is, I didnt know Fort Lee got three dedicated lanes until all this stuff happened, and I think we should review that entire policy because I dont know why Fort Lee needs three dedicated lanes to tell you the truth, Christie said at the time. And I didnt even know it until this whole, you know, happening went about.
http://www.northjersey.com/news/christie_kelly_bridge_lane_closures_emails.html?page=all
http://www.northjersey.com/news/christie_kelly_bridge_lane_closures_emails.html?page=all
Another quote:
CHRISTIE: I didn`t know Fort Lee got three dedicated lanes until all this stuff happened. I sat in that traffic before I was governor, the fact that one town has three lanes dedicated to it? That kind of gets me sauced.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/54031801/ns/msnbc-all_in_with_chris_hayes/
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/54031801/ns/msnbc-all_in_with_chris_hayes/
That's a about 3:50 into the first tape posted here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024303805
He was "sauced."
He wasn't upset about the dangerous situation created by the lane closures, he was "sauced" that Fort Lee had "three lanes dedicated to it." (lie)
Then there are the repeated lies involving David Samson, who we now know met with Christie a week before the "time for a traffic jam" message and who threatened Patrick Foye, leading to a Christie phone call to Governor Cuomo.
Samson, who claimed he wasn't told of bridge plot, threatened Foye in email
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024312456
NJ Port Authority Chief (Foye) Warned That Bridge Lane Closures Were Illegal
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024311993
To quote another DUer: "Foye is sticking his neck out here, as we know from the other documents: the Christie people were seeking retaliation against him, and Christie himself later went to Cuomo to complain about Foye. This is courage."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024314942
To quote Josh Marshall: "...I do not see how that (Christie's call to Cuomo) doesn't gravely undermine the credibility of the story Christie told in his epic press conference on Thursday."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024314174
Here is John Wisniewski's statement confirming Christie's meeting with Samson.
N.J. Lawmaker: New Docs Mention Christie Meeting With Port Authority Chair
The New Jersey lawmaker who's been leading the state assembly's investigation into the scandal surrounding lane closures on the George Washington Bridge said Friday that newly released documents raise further questions about the extent to which New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie's (R) administration covered up the mess.
Assemblyman John Wisniewski (D) in a statement drew particular attention to a document showing an apparent meeting between Christie and one of his top appointees at the Port of New York and New Jersey, which oversees the bridge, just days before his deputy chief of staff wrote an email to a Port Authority executive saying it was "time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee."
Read Wisniewski's full statement below:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/wisniewski_documents_new_questions
The New Jersey lawmaker who's been leading the state assembly's investigation into the scandal surrounding lane closures on the George Washington Bridge said Friday that newly released documents raise further questions about the extent to which New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie's (R) administration covered up the mess.
Assemblyman John Wisniewski (D) in a statement drew particular attention to a document showing an apparent meeting between Christie and one of his top appointees at the Port of New York and New Jersey, which oversees the bridge, just days before his deputy chief of staff wrote an email to a Port Authority executive saying it was "time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee."
Read Wisniewski's full statement below:
As with so much else weve discovered during this investigation, these documents raise many more questions. Its obvious that senior members of the governors staff were involved in spin control once this story broke.
Given everything weve seen and heard, there are two glaring questions that exist right now.
How much of the full picture was the governors senior staff given regarding the development of this lane closure project? With the tight control this administration maintains, it doesnt stretch the imagination that they were given more information than they let on. When they were preparing spin control, how could they not have been given the whole story?
Secondly, the documents submitted by David Wildstein and his attorney are documents they deemed specifically related to the lane closures at the George Washington Bridge as per our subpoena request. Included in these documents is a reference to what appears to be a meeting between Port Authority Chairman David Samson and the governor one week before Bridget Kelly issued the order to cause traffic problems in Fort Lee. By submitting these documents, Mr. Wildstein is telling us they are related to the lane closures in some way. The question that demands answering is how?
These are just two of the many answers we will be seeking in the days and weeks ahead.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/wisniewski_documents_new_questions
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I agree that he is a petty asshole, but I still don't understand why he wanted to kill this project
Bjorn Against
Jan 2014
#9
If I can find a video link to Kornacki's presentation of his theory I will watch it
Bjorn Against
Jan 2014
#17
I think the point in your OP is that Christie may be angling for a cut, maybe a lucrative contract
JDPriestly
Jan 2014
#98
That is a good question and if someone could provide an answer I may find this theory more plausible
Bjorn Against
Jan 2014
#18
+1 I'm similarly confused & would welcome a more clear explanation of the 'theory' ...
brett_jv
Jan 2014
#37
The contracts related to the Hudson Lights Phase 1 were essentially done before the bridge closure
onenote
Jan 2014
#38
I have found no evidence that the announcement of the financing was delayed for a week
onenote
Jan 2014
#61
But it was miraculously cleared up just a couple of days after the strong-arm tactics.
Atman
Jan 2014
#67
If I understand what I just read, the idea was one of two things. (1) Threaten the project, not to
tblue37
Jan 2014
#30
The Koch front governorships all do this. The public be damned. Follow the money. n/t
freshwest
Jan 2014
#25
Most likely because it benefited NY real estate developers more than NJ real estate developers
FarCenter
Jan 2014
#87
The NJ Transportation Trust Fund funds intra-state projects benefiting NJ developers, etc.
FarCenter
Jan 2014
#90
It funds NJDOT and NJT to the tune of about one and a quarter billion annually
FarCenter
Jan 2014
#94
Look at how many Republican governors killed high speed rail projects in their home state. There
okaawhatever
Jan 2014
#65
Same for the $4 million marketing contract for Sandy Repair...the $2 million quote was not chosen
libdem4life
Jan 2014
#101
An investigation should be held to find out who got that money, because
Baitball Blogger
Jan 2014
#102
In this case it was a blatant decision to hire the firm, at nearly double the other firm's quote,
libdem4life
Jan 2014
#103
So glad you posted this! I think BOTH Maddow and Kornacki are in the right ballpark.
Ninga
Jan 2014
#21
Ghouliani would know a little something about cover-ups and backing the "official story". Fuck him!
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#55
Possible. The 2016 Fervor (and his staff's hunger for cabinet positions was a large influence).
TheBlackAdder
Jan 2014
#29
FYI, Kornacki stated on Chris Hayes' show that he worked for Wildstein early in his career. (nt)
proverbialwisdom
Jan 2014
#34
Sokolich mentioned this construction project when talking motive on Rachel's show last week.....
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#100