The trouble with Sanjay Gupta

So apparently Obama plans to appoint CNN’s Sanjay Gupta as Surgeon General. I don’t have a problem with Gupta’s qualifications. But I do remember his mugging of Michael Moore over Sicko. You don’t have to like Moore or his film; but Gupta specifically claimed that Moore “fudged his facts”, when the truth was that on every one of the allegedly fudged facts, Moore was actually right and CNN was wrong.

What bothered me about the incident was that it was what Digby would call Village behavior: Moore is an outsider, he’s uncouth, so he gets smeared as unreliable even though he actually got it right. It’s sort of a minor-league version of the way people who pointed out in real time that Bush was misleading us into war are to this day considered less “serious” than people who waited until it was fashionable to reach that conclusion. And appointing Gupta now, although it’s a small thing, is just another example of the lack of accountability that always seems to be the rule when you get things wrong in a socially acceptable way.

Update: Many commenters don’t seem to get the point. Gupta didn’t say “Michael Moore is an annoying blowhard”; he didn’t say “We question his interpretation of the evidence”; he said he “fudged the facts”. In other words, he accused Moore of lying. That’s a very strong accusation, which had better be backed by solid evidence. Instead, we had CNN misreading a number from Moore; CNN objecting to Moore using a projected health care spending number for 2007 instead of an actual number for 2005 (and the projection was right, by the way); CNN accusing Moore of not showing a number that was in fact right there in the movie. And Gupta did not apologize, except for the misread number.

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I have an uncomfortable sense of déja vu — the Obama administration will be just like that of Clinton — so much promise, so much hope, squandered. Just one disappointment after another.

I saw that exchange between Gupta and Moore and agree with you 100%. Gupta is smarmy; I’m disappointed if they pick him for Surgeon General.

It is an indictment of all “serious” journalists who dismissed Michael Moore because he was confrontational – not wrong, mind you, just confrontational about the Iraq war, and about our health care system. It’s “groupthink” at its finest. People tend to roll their eyes when I refer to any of his movies – as if, by definition, he’s beyond the pale.

You are right, and Sanjay Gupta’s reaction was probably more of a guilty reaction that likely reflects the views of many doctors. Moore pointed out quite correctly that the US ranks somewhere near Cuba when it comes to the quality of health care on offer. Add to this the fact that it also has the most expensive health care system in the world. What conclusion can a sane person draw from this? That American doctors are notoriously inefficient on average if all the money they charge (the health care industry is a 1.5 trillion dollar industry) still puts them at a ranking of #39.
Even though Moore never blamed doctors (or the AMA) for the state of affairs, I am sure Gupta is smart enough to connect the dots and eager to discredit Moore. At a fundamental level only Milton Friedman makes sense when it comes to fixing the health care problem in the US.

Have you seen “Manufacturing Dissent?”

//www.imdb.com/title/tt0961117/

I pray for the future of this country at times, and then I stop, I then think as a politician, and decide the future of this country is easily maneuverable through the mere power of words, through the power of mortals, through the power of pleasing upcoming superpowers such as India. I hear certain countries laughing at us right now regarding this probably appointment of Dr.Sanjay Gupta, however I also see them nodding their heads in approval with respect to this strategic move. Bravo America for selecting our 44th President. He is almost as smart as we think he is…

Nazish Nomani

…just another example of the lack of accountability that always seems to be the rule when you get things wrong in a socially acceptable way.

It starts at the top, doesn’t it?

Well, I expected Obama to disappoint me (as elements of his campaign and his New Yorker profile made abundantly clear, he is above all a politician), but I didn’t expect it would come before he was sworn in. Not that I am overly concerned with this particular piece of news, but it’s the latest in this week’s series of depressingly centrist moves.

Paul,

I’m not so sure that you’re keying on the right variable re: whether Iraq War critics are considered serious or not. Jim Webb and Obama, for instance, haven’t been tarred by their early opposition for the war. Indeed, both were seriously helped by it, and people who converted when it was fashionable (Kerry, Clinton) were hurt by not having supported the war from the beginning.

I think the more predictive variable is probably the type of opposition you gave.

People who are seen as reflexively anti-war are going to be seen as on the fringes of politics. And these people will disproportionately be among the first to oppose the war.

People who opposed the war for strategic reasons – because it’ll be a costly war, a dumb war, what have you – have been richly rewarded. Jim Webb opposed the war on strategic grounds, and no one has failed to take him seriously. Obama’s criticism at the time was similar.

Gary Schwitzer, the former head of the CNN Medical Unit (in the pre-Gupta days) has had some choice things to say about Sanjay Gupta’s reporting on his blog about health journalism:

https://blog.lib.umn.edu/cgi-bin/mt-search.cgi?IncludeBlogs=704&search=sanjay+gupta

Gupta’s problem is that he is unqualified. He is not a leader in the field and his appointment a big disappointment.

Wow, that has to be the most round-about appointment criticism I’ve seen this transition…

Nortin Hadler, M.D., of the U-North Carolina Med School and author of “The Last Well Person: How to stay well despite the health care system” would probably have been a much better choice for the times we face.

I agree — though I would add that there’s a class snobbishness about this that is endemic not just to The Village but also to Obama’s people. I think this election was far more about class than race. I do not expect to see very may working class faces or attitudes in this Administration.

What about Joyce Elders, for G-d’s sake???

Another recycled Clinton staffer, African-American, female….

Has been coping with her abrupt (and disgraceful ) firing by President Clinton by getting back into community organizing….

Seriously, she goes around to African-American churches and very patiently explains to the gathered what AIDS is all about, how to prevent it, she deals with the nuances….

She’s golden. Why not her?

This would be a great time for a public apology by Dr. Gupta. What a terrific example it would set .

and if i remember cnn apologized thru wolf bltzer after
views called them on it

Sanjay Gupta!!!!

What a disappointment.

He’s making concessions to the bipartisan conservative coalition in the Senate. Next progressive project: a Senate update. Krawk!

I couldn’t agree more with Paul on this. Gupta almost appeared as if he was LOOKING to diss Moore from the start. As a Surgeon General, Gupta is probably fine, but when it comes to health policy, he will TOTALLY be looking out for physician’s interests first. He gave up the goods/agenda when semi-trashing Moore. He’s smart, but I’d be VERY wary of him, and as Paul points out, there’s been NO accountability for his own misstatements.

Ugh. You are really predictable. What’s your beef?

Not that I disagree necessarily, but exactly who is going to get appointed to anything if we’re scouring their entire records for error? I believe it was Frank Rich who was criticizing the appointment of Tim Geithner at Treasury on the basis that he’d been wrong in thinking Lehman ought to be allowed to fail. But at the same time, most all of the people who were “right” about that were wrong about something else at some other time. Similarly, Barack Obama might have been right about Iraq, but I think he’s unequivocally wrong about, say, bringing Ukraine into NATO.

Of course, some wrong decisions are more wrong than others, and some issues are more important than others. And I certainly agree with the idea that there’s a real problem when it’s better to agree with the CW than to be right, but it just seems like we’re going to run out of people to do jobs if we’re insisting that they must never have been wrong about anything.

Three words: Premature Anti-Facist. (Is that three of two?) PAF was cold-war term the FBI used for people who had opposed Hitler “too soon.” Reasonable people were supposed to have approved of the Nazis up to the point they attacked Great Britain. History repeats and Krugman nails it again.

D.C. has always been a village and the gossips in that village are out in force now that Obama is making cabinet appointments.

Maybe one consideration that Obama has in all of this is the justified fear that if he ticks off the villagers he will be trashed and attacked the way that the Clintons were.

Of course he could well tick off the villagers simply by not being Republican and then all of this careful navigation could go to waste.

Still seems better than the alternative.

By the way. Does this mean you agree with Moore on the single payer thing?

Perhaps the point is what Gupta can do to advance Obama’s health care initiative as opposed to rewarding Gupta

Perhaps a greater concern would be to have full vetting of any links he may have to big pharma. How will his personal financial situation keep up with his present level? Would he be tempted? That other surgeon involved at a high level didn’t seem to keep himself true to the common good. The Senator from TN. Just wondering.